Like EdenPure it uses the same technology, 'infrared quartz tube + PTC'.this is what gives the heaters the longevity. Oh Al, It is you who does not understand electric restisance heating AT ALL Continue to believe what you want to believe. Turned on in December. Hogwash. Here is a great explanation of what you should look for (that and a 'wide mouth'): http://www.biophysicscenter.com/infrared-heaters.h Hope this helps!! Another interesting point that only Delbert seemed to make is--- how much maintenance is required? Less expensive models one have tubes. My personal choice - an oil-filled radiator, with the price tag of around $40 to $60. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. do EVERYTHING that these $400 dollar SNAKE OIL heaters do!! My last post was cut off - 2) A btu is a btu 1500 watts is 5100 btu's .That is all you can put on a 120 volt 15 amp curcuit . I finally find the place and they said i only had 30 days warranty not 60 days. cold in massachusetts on January 12, 2011: where can you run a 1500 watt heater all night for $0.23? From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. I live on a mountain in Colorado. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. In other words a fan force heater will heat a space faster and then turn off faster while a pure convection heater will take much longer. My only issue is that the second year it started turning off all the time for no reason and now it's just sitting in my spare room doing nothing. They promote using zone heating to save money. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. The importance of this is any space heater will do that. Bob Vila was dropped by Sears for problems with post job problems and costs associated. That's common sense. A friend of mine purchased 2 after experiencing my heater. Electric heat is VERY expensive, no matter how much you pay for your heater. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 01, 2011: It looks like we are starting another season of the heater scam. I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). He admitted to lying to CBS about the origin of the memos when he said he got them from fellow guardsman George Conn,[6] then claiming that he received the Killian documents from a woman calling herself "Lucy Ramirez" who has never been identified. I just needed to confirm that there hadn't been a major scientific breakthrough that makes free energy. I know others you spoke with like theirs, but it would be helpful to all readers to hear your experience. d.william from Somewhere in the south on December 01, 2011: Good article. I have been in this house for 10 years, so in 10 years, I have spent just in those 3 months alone $15,000. Do not take my word for it call yourself 1-800-294-0280 and see if you can get through. I don't know where one of these people learned their math, but a 300 sq ft room is not a 6 x 7. I don't know about most of you, but in the coldest 3 months of the year here, my bill runs over $500. The USA has turned into a scam hotbed. And Sylvania's bulb life testing, like all other lamp manufacturers, is performed in still air with infrequent on/off cycles (once a day to once a week). No complaints at all. I chose not to not knowing how high those three months would be. I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. I've found that by partial disassembling them and placing a tiny drop of oil at the motor bearing points they will run for MANY years past their obsolescent date. So does anything else that uses 1500W of electricity, such as a $15 bathroom heater or a 1500W blow hair dryer. One of the most important features and benefits of the Eden Pure vs one of the $50 that may heat the same space I would not trust most of those $50 heaters or anything that can be turned over easily and I certainly would never leave my home with one of those heaters on. How long do the bulbs last, how much do they cost, and does a technician have to do the work? After reading all the negative reviews posted about the Eden Pure,I called back to cancel my order. Nice flat spot for debris. The square feet/cubic feet issue comes from EdenPURE ads from a few years ago when I wrote the original article. The clue is in the word personal . Therefore, a 10' x 10' room with a 10' foot ceiling is 100 square feet, but 1000 cubic feet. My complaints is that I place my order 4 weeks ago still no shipment (endnpure.com states 5 to 10 dyas) & cust service does not respond to email and closed half the time. The Amazon vendor that sells the $15.99 Lasko heater shown above wants $27.00 shipping! Price? All of your honest comments and reviews have just saved me from making a huge and costly mistake. Installing a water heater replacement costs between $845 and $1,698, or an average of $1,271, for a tank-based unit and labor. Mobile homes are really bad for heat loss. This can be an effective do-it-yourself project, just be careful doing so, or get someone experienced to help you. Frankly, I think enough has been said about the EdenPure. He had to pay 25 bucks to ship it. 1) If a person commenting on this site is in the HVAC business they are automatically biased against EdenPURE because it competes with their services. Get notified about new Tester jobs in Ranst, Flemish Region, Belgium. The Air King 8132 1500 watt ceramic space heater covers areas up to 150 square feet. Burkett's Heating & Cooling is a premier choice for professional HVAC services in Piqua and Sidney, OH, and surrounding areas. In that case the EdenPure can save you money over natural gas. Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). To enhance the gameday experience in the Jim Kelly, Van Miller and Paul Maguire Clubs, a radiant heating system was installed and ready for use during the chilly games of the 2013 season. Question: What is the best portable heater? Glad I read all these posts before wasting my money on Edenpure though. William W. Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. But remember Edenpure didn't directly claim they would save you money, that was just the testimonials that they scattered throughout the infomercial which claimed savings. The key to these are you heat the rooms you are living in during the day so you use your furnace less. A $50.00 Lasko has the exact same efficiency as its EP $450.00 counterpart. High efficiency water heaters use 10 to 50 percent less energy than standard models, saving homeowners money on their utility bills. I live in the South, and that is high for me (keep in mind I have not experienced this because I have not used it 24 hours a day). You could heat an inner room to 70 degrees with the EdenPure for maybe $60/month ($0.15/kWh * 12 hrs/day * 30 days) while dropping the thermastat on the rest of the house to 50 degrees, reducing your heating bill by 40% (assuming avg temp outside is 20 degrees) saving $200/month on natural gas, thereby saving you about $140/month overall! Everything is on the website and on the adverts. Both heated equal areas in comparable ways, even though the Lasko only costs about $50. Actually, when the Eden uses that copper coil to absorb the heat they're actually deceasing the efficiency of the heater. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. yes my electric bill is higher when i run the eden pure, but my gas bill is greatly lowered, my main furnance mainly runs during the day when we are a work, because i dont like leaving the eden pure running when we are not home. So, for this is is great. I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. Oil heaters transfer heat by convection. Secure it to the basement wall using the appropriate masonry anchors for your foundation wall. Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. I've read enough negativity about these units I've decided to stick with name brands (Honeywell etc.) Thanks for pointing this out for those of us who are scam recognizably challenged. They can be made of solid fabric or in the case of honeycomb (cellular) shades can be a blend of paper, lace, and/or fabrics. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. I am glad i took the time to read it and all the interesting and informative comments. PERIOD. I told customer services I wanted my money refunded and was told NO WAY you have had your heater over the 60 days satisfaction guarantee.. What the h..l are they talking about I have a 5 yr warranty. An electric heater can do the job for an unheated sideroom or shop where the cost of a furnace or duct work would be prohibitive. This has been disputed. This article will examine the claims made by EdenPUREs manufacturer and expose their lies. I am lucky to have a couple of working ones, they do help, but after reading all the electric experts and cost of cheaper 1500w heaters, I must sadly say, I have been scamed. ", They would be dedicated to making sure the expectations of an ongoing pleasant experience that is designed into the commercial would be realized to the end of product life. You are just cutting costs by heating a smaller areasomething you could have done without a $400 space heater. This sure seems to be a scam. That was going to be a total of 5-6 zones. 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Since the same heater at Amazon is under $100 my guess is they lowered their price to compete better. This actually makes their heater less efficient. The pilgrim done swallowed the hook too. A 50-gallon, 5,500-watt water heater with a .90 EF and an electricity rate of $.16 per kilowatt hour will cost $781 to operate each year. I saw Bob Vila's very convincing infomercial and I agree that space heating rooms might be more efficient than a leaky whole-house system, and it does seem logical that one 1500 watt 5000 btu space heater shouldn't be any better than another, but I would be interested to know if any Eden Pure owners have actually found this second point to be true. It is designed for heated or cooled air to go through only the vents of the zones you have on. It has exactly the same power of 1000 to 2000 Watts as everything else including EdenPure. Answer: A radiant barrier is a thin reflective fabric. And, BTW, author of this site, it is SQUARE FEET, not CUBIC as you stated. Burgers were wonderfully juicy, with the buns toasted on the flat top before assembly, so we got the full old fashioned greasy, buttery effect. I plugged it in this spring to take the chill out. I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. Bill Burkett fights back A key player in the Dan Rather Memogate saga sends a letter to CBS, charging that its independent investigation destroyed his reputation and ignored the network's own . I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. I cannot tell you if the heater is worth it or not, because they will not answer the phone once you place an order. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. Bob Villa uses the same deceptive wording as the company. AND I MEAN THAT SINCERELY. EdenPUREs manufacturer makes several claims about its heater. If you have any questions with any of our products both before or after your purchase, please feel free to contact our customer service department at 1-877-432-8639. F0r reference, 1000 hours is about 42 days of continuous run time. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). It is a 20 x 15, a pretty decent size room. This biographical article related to the United States military is a stub. Perrysburg, Ohio and go home with your product the same day. I spent aA LOT of time researching!! Signed Mad from South Dakota and hope there is some kind of class action suit taken against Eden Pure and their misleading clan. A good quality heat pump with good ductwork WILL outperform straight resistance electric heat. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. If you rent, I would go with the DuraFlame at half the price and monitor the use, wear sweats, socks, and you will not only save money, you will be warm enough and have lower bills.+. Yes, you can buy heaters for less, but do you trust leaving them on during the night or when away from home. I would rather have on sweats, even with another shirt under and be comfortable with my $200. I also have a $39.99 portable oil radiator heater that I purchased from Lowes. ft. It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. at a fraction of the cost,with the same heat output a far fewer failure rates. Talk about a rip off. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. By not heating the unoccupied rooms of your home, you will cut your heating bill. Buyer beware. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. Had I chosen to update and insulate when I first moved here, I could have done it for that price or less. We bought an Eden Pure Gen 1000 a month and a half ago and lo and behold our electric company called today because they noticed a huge spike in our usage, as a matter of fact our usage has more than doubled. However, the radiant barrier can't be sandwiched between two objects as the contact point transfers heat away quite nicely. The heat is a soft even heat and is extremely comfortable. The best way to save money (in the long run), is to not only comply with your electricity company replacing things in your home that will give you a lower rate per kwh. In other words a room measuring 6' x 7'. My wife and I have found that our electric and gas power bills have gone down by more than half, each (we have a gas furnace) since we started using our Life Smart brand infrared heater. Because it works and dose save money especially if you have bad heating in your house. This is an electrical climate-control system which provides heat as well as refrigerated cooling. We tried their medium wings and a couple of the burgers. If you are going to call names and state things are scams, what do you think about these celebrities, who we would normally feel are honest, endorsing the senior life insurances they state is ONLY 9.00 per UNIT. Referrals increase your chances of interviewing at IMPACT by 2x. I have purchased Eden pure heaters 1 is 2 years old and the fan motor is shot and one of the tubes is burned out. Depending on how long you allow your electric heater to run during the colder winter months, you could see an increase in your electricity usage, along with a higher electricity bill. Edin Pure has more competition so their price should be competitive if they want to stay competitive. The American Free Enterprise system only works if we work it. Bill Burr announced spring and summer North American dates for his Live Nation produced 2022 arena and amphitheater tour, Bill Burr (Slight Return), visiting 23 cities from April through August including Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse on April 23, 2022. Connect with Us 5360 Red Arrow Hwy, Stevensville, MI 49127 PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us They, too, use energy, but not . Energy savings will be the same either way. Have sent emails to their c/s area but they never respond. Placed an order for the Eden Pure Gen 4 after watching an TV commercial. etc. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. Suarez Manufacturing Industries / Pinnacle Systems, did no component life testing at all during the Edenpure US-1000 / Gen4 product development. We have found that if you turn the heater on and just leave it alone, it really does a great job. is too low you end up, cutting in a supply grill to bring the temp. Thank you for the validation. Publication Date: 05/25/2006 . Are Eden pure trying to rip you off. Here are the facts - 1) Duct loss in a basement is not always a bad thing , if your basement is too cold you risk freezing pipes so if the temp. Well, come to my house, put you hands in front of each item and we will see which one you pull away from first! I will not call this a scam. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. For your reference, I use Lasko heaters in my home and office. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. Felt bad for the guy. Thanks. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. are surprised when they experience comfortable, cost-efficiently operating systems in other manufactured homes. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. They said they could not do a refund because it was past the 60 days and I said I thought the 60 day thing was for the smart people that decided they didn't want it, not for a DEFECTIVE product of which I have received 2 in a row.Anyway they refused to refund my money so I guess I'm just stuck with this piece of junk. The family film tells the story of Bobby Burkett (Huffman), the quarterback for Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas, a small catholic high school. I used the Gen3 1000 last winter and it kept our living area comfortable. Nothing has changed. Common sense. The point has been made of how some feel about it. Of course heat rises, but are any of you 8 feet tall to feel that it may be warmer at the ceiling?? I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. I was at the UPS store today watching an old guy trying to return one of those pieces of junk. [5], Burkett's claims about the origins of the documents have since changed several times.